WS2812 RGB LED Strip power requirements and battery runtime with 18650 cells

Customer:

I apologize for the incorrect link. Here is the correct link from your website: Soldered: Open-Source Electronics, Boards, Sensors & Modules – Soldered Electronics

Original message (Croatian)

Ispričavam se na krivoj poveznici za bateriju.

Evo poveznica s Vaše stranice:

Soldered: Open-Source Electronics, Boards, Sensors & Modules – Soldered Electronics

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Originally submitted via email support on 19 April 2022. Migrated to the forum for community visibility.

Soldered Support:

The LED strip can be cut at the locations marked for cutting - each LED can be separated and used individually. When soldering, apply solder to the strip’s pins and solder either wire or pins from another strip. When soldering, pay attention to the fact that the strip has DIN and DOUT - data comes in on one side and goes out the other, so it’s important not to reverse it or the strip won’t work.

The battery you mentioned is rechargeable, but you need to use a charger designed for Li-Ion batteries. We also have a holder for 18650 batteries (https://e-radionica.com/hr/drzac-za-18650-li-bateriju.html). The battery can run for more than 3 minutes if you use 1 meter of strip, but you’ll need to boost the voltage to 5V because when the voltage drops to 3.6V, the strip won’t work or will work with much lower intensity.

Original message (Croatian)

Led traku možete rezati na mjestima na kojima ima oznaka za rezanje, odnosno traka je napravljena da se svaka LED dioda može odvojiti i koristiti zasebno. Kada se lemi potrebno je na pinove trake nanijeti lem i zalemiti ili žicu ili pinove druge trake. Kod lemljenja je potrebno obratiti pažnju na do da traka ima DIN i DOUT odnosno na jednu stranu dolaze podaci, a s druge odlaze dalje te je to bitno da se ne okrene krivo jel traka neće raditi.

Baterija koju ste naveli je punjiva, ali treba koristiti punjač koji je namijenjen za Li-Ion baterije. Također imamo i držač za 18650 baterije ( https://e-radionica.com/hr/drzac-za-18650-li-bateriju.html ). Baterija može raditi duže od 3 minute ako će te koristiti 1 metar trake, samo će te morati podiči napon na 5V jer kada napon padne ne 3.6V mislim da traka neće raditi ili će raditi ali puno slabijim intenzitetom.

Customer:

We have additional questions about the battery and addressable RGB LED strip.

We ordered 10 meters of addressable RGB LED strip, 2 times 5m each. Now we want to know how many 18650 batteries would be needed for an entire 5 meter strip to run for 3 minutes? One battery per meter or can it work with fewer?

Do you have a charger for Li-Ion batteries?

We saw that you have two connected batteries Soldered: Open-Source Electronics, Boards, Sensors & Modules – Soldered Electronics

Do you have a holder for such a package? If not, what do you suggest we do so that the entire 5 meter strip after soldering can run for 3 minutes?

Original message (Croatian)

Imamo dodatna pitanja oko baterije i adresabilne RGB led trake.

Mi smo naručili 10 metara adresabilne RGB led trake, 2 puta po 5m. Sad

nas zanima koliko bi trebali 18650 baterija da cijela traka od 5

metara uspije raditi do 3 minute? Baterija po metru ili može s manje?

Imate li i možda punjač za Li-on baterije?

Vidjeli smo da imate dvije spojene baterije

Soldered: Open-Source Electronics, Boards, Sensors & Modules – Soldered Electronics

Imate li možda držač za takav paket? Ako ne, što nam predlažete da

napravimo, a da cijela traka od 5 metara nakon lemljenja može raditi 3

minute?

Soldered Support:

An addressable LED strip with 30 LEDs per meter requires 1.8A when the LEDs are white at maximum intensity. With 10 meters, that would be 18A for the entire strip. Since a battery can discharge at 1C (current equal to its capacity), the battery you mentioned can discharge at 2900mA (2.9A), which would power slightly more than 1.5 meters of strip.

There is a battery life calculator at Battery Life Calculator that you can use. According to the calculator, the battery would last 7 minutes at 18A discharge, but as I mentioned earlier, that current would damage the battery. You could power each 1.5 meters of strip with one battery, but that current is at the limit of the battery’s maximum current, so it would be better to have one battery per meter.

We have chargers available, and I would recommend using a charger with protection because the battery you linked doesn’t have protection and could be completely discharged if used without protection. The charger is at Soldered: Open-Source Electronics, Boards, Sensors & Modules – Soldered Electronics.

If you use a 2S1P battery package, you don’t need a step-up module to boost voltage, but instead a regulator or step-down module to lower voltage. A 2S battery package has a voltage of 7.2V or 8.4V when full, which is too much for the LED strip, so that voltage needs to be lowered to 5V. We don’t have a holder for that package, but it comes with a connector and protection built in, so you would just need a regular charger for charging those batteries.

Original message (Croatian)

Adresabilna LED traka s 30 LED dioda po metru treba 1.8A kada diode svijetle bijelom bojom na maksimalnom intenzitetu. Kako imate 10 metara to bi bilo 18A struje za cijelu LED traku. Kako se baterija može prazniti s 1C odnosno strujom jednakom njenom kapacitetu što bi značilo da se baterija koju ste prethodno naveli može prazniti s 2900mA odnosno 2.9A što bi bilo malo više od 1.5 metara trake. Na linku ( Battery Life Calculator ) je kalkulator za izračun vremena trajanja baterije te se možete s njime poslužiti. Prema izračunu iz kalkulatora baterija bi trajala 7 minuta kada bi se praznila s 18A, ali kako sam prethodno naveo ta struja bi uništila bateriju. Mogli bi napajati svakih 1.5 metara trake s jednom baterijom, ali ta struja je na granici maksimalne struje baterije te bi bolje bilo da za svaki metar imate po jednu bateriju. Punjač se nalazi na linku ( Soldered: Open-Source Electronics, Boards, Sensors & Modules – Soldered Electronics). Ako koristite baterijski paket 2S1P onda ne morate koristiti step-up modul za podizanje napona nego regulator ili step-down modul za spuštanje napona. 2S baterijski paket ima napon od 7.2V ili 8.4V kada je pun što je previše za LED traku te je potrebno taj napon spustiti na 5V. Držač za taj paket nemamo, ali on dolazi s konektorom i zaštitom unutar sebe tako da bi vam onda trebao običan punjač za punjenje tih baterija.